Source Code is an information security podcast that’s all about education. Rather than simply providing technical segments or news, Source Code is focused on the people that push information security forward and battle in the trenches every day. We interview practitioners from every facet of information security about their origin story. This includes how they got their start, how they got into the field, what makes them tick, and the career decisions that made them successful (or slowed them down) along their path. We also talk about current opinions on the state of security education to include what we’re doing right and what we’re doing wrong. You’ll hear from plenty of household names you’ve heard of, as well as some people you should know about with interesting back stories and unique contributions to the field. Source Code celebrates the diversity of backgrounds that make information security a unique place to exist.

Starting with season two, each guest gets to pick a charity to support with their appearance. We make a donation to the charity on their behalf. Be sure to check out the charity that they support!

Most Recent Episode

S2: Episode 8: Gwen Betts – February 6th, 2018

I’m joined by Gwen Betts for the final episode of this season. She is a UX director at Rapid7 via the acquisition of her previous company, Komand. She provides a unique perspective as someone who started in design and would later bring that expertise to security. We talked about her design principles and what makes good UX. We also discussed how security professionals can most effectively engage with UX and areas of the infosec space that are ripe for UX innovation.

Gwen chose to support Resilient Coders of Boston with her appearance. The organization provides technology career education with a focus on diversity.

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Season 2 Archive

S2: Episode 7: Michael W. Lucas

We’re talking writing this week with my good friend Michael W. Lucas, a fellow No Starch Press Author. We discussed how he became interested in writing and how his career as an author evolved alongside his technical career. Now a full-time writer, Michael has written dozens of books, including technical and fiction works. If you’ve ever been interested in the business, skillset, or process of authorship then you’ll enjoy our conversation.

Michael chose to support Soroptimist International of Gross Point with his appearance. These funds will go to support issues surrounding human trafficking, teen violence, and anti-bullying.

S2: Episode 6: Jennifer Kolde

I’m joined by Jennifer Kolde of the Vertex project. Jen formerly served as an investigator for the federal government and was an analyst on Mandiant/FireEye’s intel team. Her background is interesting, as she actually came to investigative work from a technical writing background. We discussed her story, what it means for someone with technical skills to become a good intel analyst, and her experience testifying to Congress about structured threats.

Jen chose to support the Alzheimer’s Foundation with her appearance. These funds will go to support individuals and families living with Alzheimer’s, as well as research for treatment, earlier diagnosis, and a cure.

S2: Episode 5: Grady Summers

This week we’re joined by Grady Summers, CTO of FireEye, former CISO of General Electric, and my former boss. During our conversation, Grady discusses his rise through the ranks at one of the largest companies in the world and his decision to leave GE behind to join Mandiant. He talks about FireEye’s place in history and some of the unique challenges they face. We also discuss buzzword solutions and which products he thinks are overblown and which ones show real promise.

Sergio chose to support the Love and Grace Haiti with his appearance. These funds will go to support the care and education of 25

S2: Episode 4: Sergio Caltagirone

Sometimes you only need one name. Prince, Madonna, Oprah….and Sergio. This week I’m thrilled to be joined by my good friend Sergio Caltagirone. We talked about the importance of ICS security, control system themed road trips, and the intersection of information security and philosophy. Sergio takes us through his journey from the Department of Defense, Microsoft and at Dragos. We also get the story of how the Diamond model came into existence. Perhaps most importantly, we talk about his work to fight human trafficking and how he is applying data science to this problem at the Global Emancipation Network.

Sergio chose to support the Rural Technology Fund with his appearance (I promise I didn’t coerce him). These funds will go to rural public school classrooms to introduce more kids to computer science.

S2: Episode 3: Haroon Meer

Haroon Meer joins us this week to talk about his journey from running South African flea market booths to founding one of the most innovative companies in information security. We discuss the differences between South African and US education, common pitfalls made by security product vendors, and the use of honeypots for detection.

Harron chose to support the United for Puerto Rico with his appearance. These funds will go to support hurricane relief from the recent weather events that occurred there.

S2: Episode 2: Rick Holland

This week I’m joined by Rick Holland, VP of Strategy for Digital Shadows. Rick is a Texan, so we kick things off right by talking BBQ. After that, we dive into his origin story where he describes his time in the Army and what he learned there. I also ask him about his time as a Forrester analyst and whether analyst firms are pay to play, and whether they have a negative impact on the security industry. Finally, we discuss the evolution of threat intelligence in the security field.

Rick chose to support the Pancreatic Cancer Action Network with his appearance.

S2: Episode 1: Richard Bejtlich

We kick off season two by welcoming Richard Bejtlich onto the podcast. Richard spent the bulk of his career helping further the evolution of network security monitoring through stints at AFCERT, GE, and Mandiant. We talked about his career evolution, the future of computer network defense, the revolution of private intelligence, and how he almost became an astronaut.

Richard chose to support 4 Paws Animal Rescue with his appearance, which is where he got both his family cats.


Season 1 Archive

Episode 1: Ed Skoudis

In our very first episode we bring in Ed Skoudis who is a SANS instructor and founder of Counter Hack. We talked about his background growing up in Michigan, a few near death experiences, teaching SANS classes without shoes, and why storytelling is so important.

Episode 2: Doug Burks

This week, my good friend Doug Burks joins us. Doug is most widely known for being the creator of the Security Onion Linux distribution that helps you peel back the layers of your network and make your adversaries cry. In this episode we talk about the origin of Security Onion, the reality check in college that helped turn Doug into one of the most disciplined and hard-working people I know, and his part in helping turn Augusta into the information security capital of the south.

Episode 3: Magen Wu

Magen Wu (tottenkoph) of Rapid7 joins us to talk about her career path. We talk about growing up in “God’s Waiting Room”, how we take our hash browns at Waffle House, speaking at security conferences, and our shared interest of psychology and how it applies to information security.

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Episode 4: Mike Poor

This week, I’m joined by Mike Poor of InGuardians. We spoke about growing up in Brazil, how a few individuals in his early life led him towards an interest in computers, how he got involved teaching with SANS, the formation of InGuardians, fostering a family environment at work, and some stories from his long career teaching people about packets.

Episode 5: Gerald Combs

Did you know that Wireshark was almost named Etherweasel? I brought in Gerald Combs to tell us about the history of Wireshark from a small tool for his own use to one of the world’s most popular open source projects in the world with over a million downloads a month. We also talk about growing up in Kansas City (with a good BBQ recommendation) and why open source is important to him.

Episode 6: Matt Swann

In this episode, I’m joined by Matt Swann who is a principal engineering manager at Microsoft. We talked about growing up in rural California, the influence of his tinkerer grandfather, and his journey up the ranks at Microsoft. Matt describes creating a culture of learning and how traditional computer science principles and evidence-based engineering guide the work of his security team.

Episode 7: Bill Pollock

In this highly anticipated interview, I have Bill Pollock who founded No Starch Press. We talk about his life growing up in New York and how he had really varied interest as a kid. He knew at a young age he wanted to be an entrepreneur and start a business for kids like him, and he did it! No Starch Press is one of the most significant names in technology publishing and through Bill’s story you’ll get a peek at why. He talks about his trials and tribulations through the publishing industry and exactly how those things shaped NSP. You can find Bill on Twitter @billpollock.

Episode 8: Jason Smith

My long time friend Jason Smith joins me on our last episode of the season. He talks about growing up in western KY and how much his parents and teachers influenced his career development from budding physics student to senior architect at Cisco Systems. As we walk through his rapid career progression, we also talk about the state of education in our industry and some mentorship strategies he’s used to help newbies become successful in our industry.


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